我有病,还老不好,别逆

[VO] 编年(一)相见-2003年底

再战

旧时光_偏转:

每看一次那些过去的故事就难过一次。
对那张最美的Orlando怨念已久啊啊啊,能不能有一天看到Viggo叔放出来啊啊啊


子非瑜:



我将罗列资料、注明来源并翻译,或指路相应位置,而尽量不做任何主观引导。




参考:viggo-work.com,OB中文站,白树开花,Leomania,戊离。(请了解参考与cite的差别,版权归属见各处链接。白树开花引用Leomania姑娘文字而未注明处,本文只承认Leomania姑娘版权)




警告:多图,流量慎入。








1999年,开花得到角色




2000年初开拍,开花写有“Orlando中土片场日记”。




开拍后,原定Aragorn演员不能让PJ满意,临时请Viggo Mortensen出演。开始PJ打电话去,其实Viggo是拒绝的……但下午他就答应了,因为儿子Henry是魔戒迷。








拍摄期间







Instead of the standard luxury lodging demanded by most stars on set, Viggo and co-star Orlando Bloom shared a converted bus while filming Rings. Viggo stocked the bus with a wine cellar and wallpapered the inside with candid behind-the-scenes photos.







 不像大多明星在片场要求奢华的标配,Viggo与另一主演Orlando Bloom在拍摄魔戒时共用一辆化妆车。Viggo在车里塞了一窖酒,车里偷拍的幕后照片贴了一墙。










When Star asked the actor what he makes of being called a sex symbol, he joked, "I think you should ask Orlando Bloom that question!" 







 被Star问及他对被称为“性感的象征”怎么看时,他说笑道:“我觉得这个问题你该问Orlando Bloom!”(言下之意Orlando才是sex symbol)




——2003年访谈《Could Viggo Mortensen be the Perfect Man》,地址:http://www.viggo-works.com/?page=112




P.S. 同样关于sexy或sex symbol,Liv姐姐曾说自己很爱Orlando,会留神看着他不让他在人生道路上走偏,主持人便问“Do you think he's sexy?”你认为他性感吗?




Liv说:“No, I never think of him that way. He's lovely.”不,我从不曾从这个角度看待他。他很可爱。








访谈中提到的绿色化妆车被他们取名C-Bago(全称cuntybago)







"Ahhh yes, the bus. It was mine, all mine. It was my precious," Bloom says sifting LOTR character Gollum through an [English] drawl. (开花学Gollum的声音说“巴士上都是我的,全是我的,我的宝贝”)




Bloom, a "sex symbol" according to Mortensen, christened the bus the "C-word" when the makeup artist was fuming about someone and asked Bloom's advice. (化妆师被人惹恼了,来问开花的建议,巴士由此得名)




"You should kick him in the c—t and tell him to f—k off!" Bloom said. "Viggo just lost it for half an hour. He kept saying, 'What did you say?' [The bus] became all about "the word." We took that word and took all of its power away. We made it the most loving word in the world. If you were a true c—t, you were the most amazing person in the world." (开花应景地骂了两句,Viggo想了半小时没懂,一直追问他说的是啥。巴士从此被用花开骂人的词命名了,变成了剧组里大家彼此的爱称。)








Elija Wood对Cuntybago的氛围表示暗搓搓滴嫉妒:







“Their Winnebago for makeup was called the Cuntebago. I was not a part of the Cuntebago unfortunately - it was the makeup room of Orlando, Viggo and Sean Bean - but it was a lovely place to visit. Cuntebago T-shirts were made up. There was a Cunty Christmas and we had a Cunty Christmas tree, all this stuff. ” 




“ I think we were all secretly jealous of the Cuntebago.” Wood says. “ I was anyway. I loved the atmosphere. Any place that had Viggo in the centre was always an interesting place to be…..And that was where all the alcohol was.”








 这一段地址见:http://nus711.livejournal.com/ 由于是LJ,来源相对不那么可靠,待查。




访谈中提到的幕后照片的一部分:











One elf brother from Mirkwoods, readying himself for battle. A deadly fighting machine; glad he's on our side.







密林来的精灵兄弟,为战斗做着顺被。致命的杀戮机器,幸好他是我们这边的。





Elf Head, 精灵头











Location in CuntyBago, haha




Exhibit A: You notice the superiority of the pointy ear, we saved a pair of for you, you human.(这句虽然看不清,但LJ的wipeout360 姑娘指出viggo在某interview中念出过,感谢wipeout360姑娘,你对360的怨念我get到了23333)







地点在CuntyBago,哈哈




展览A:你发现尖耳朵的优越了吧,我们给你留了一对,人类。(吐槽:这字真乱啊)








其它人拍摄的他们





 我不知道中间是谁,有人知道请举手~(如果flynn可以…… 不,我只是想想)





 摸头~ o(* ̄▽ ̄*)ブ





 黄雀在后








撞头




当时Viggo迷上了毛利人的撞头礼,迷得超越了“礼”的范畴,开始撞着玩:先说着甜言蜜语让对方放松警惕,然后……DUANG!







获得“化妆师的怨恨”x100




此段剪辑见B站http://www.bilibili.com/video/av1631283/ 花开一脸受伤地“谴责”Viggo暴行,Viggo笑得非常开心,觉得对方很享受。花开说自己被撞得眼前一片白光。







Every time I see him, I see the white light. ——Orlando







(整体关于打斗的花絮见B站http://www.bilibili.com/video/av1093546/








互相挖苦的精灵和人类




挖苦是常态,资料非常多,其中http://www.bilibili.com/video/av1217857/ 《魔戒1花絮》里3分钟开始有一段








被诳去冲浪




出自花絮里PJ之口,地址自己找吧B站有。男主之一带着下图这样的脸过来上班……PJ对此怨念极深。











银蕨树林迷路




据说Viggo对非常多家媒体说过这件事,其中一回的视频地址,HIDALGO访谈:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0AzTcSfnUE 生肉,需翻墙。不知道有没有翻译,有的话求地址,没有的话我可以考虑做嗯。




他想向“一位朋友”展示新西兰的银蕨森林有多美,很man地说一切有我!我知道怎么走!电筒?不用不用,晚饭前把你带回来。后面的事大家都知道了……哈哈哈哈哈哈




主持人问你当时害怕吗?Viggo说:怕倒没有,就是必须要承认自己迷路了感觉很糗,而且自己受苦没什么,可这回害到另一个人…… 于是掏出相机、开闪光灯,拍了足足两组胶卷来照明。胶卷用完了还是没找到路,他便带着“那位朋友”找了块干地躺下,等月亮出来O(∩_∩)O~ 14小时后两人带着淤青回到剧组。








说话谨慎是Viggo的一贯风格,所以不知这一回是说漏嘴,还是被某位同僚(不由自主想到专注卖队友30年的Dominic……)热情地出卖了——Skip Magazine的文字访谈。







With Mr. Mortensen Bloom "lost" himself in the New Zealand wilderness. 14 hours later they both returned to the LotR set bruised and thirsty and with a photo that's reputed to be the best ever taken of Orlando. If Mortensen would only release it







 大意是V和“一位朋友”迷路归来,带着一身伤、和Orlando有史以来最美的一张照片,如果viggo愿意公开的话。








之后Viggo的装束上常有银蕨装饰,见下图红圈(红圈由Leomania姑娘标记,特此感谢)





 
 








TWIML戒指




开花有一枚戒指,上面刻着精灵文的to wherever it may lead(简写即twiml),是开花的第二化妆师为他准备的,语出魔戒3里legolas本应有的一句台词(坊间传闻是viggo送他的,乃至在一些同人文里被当做定情信物,这不准确)。开花非常喜欢这句词,到处和人说“我在魔戒3里有一句这样的台词!你们快去看!”最后放映时、包括加长版中,却都没有出现,开花非常失望。




在dvd加长版的演员评论音轨中,开花又提到这句被删掉的台词,强调自己非常怨念。场景是ALG三人组走亡灵之路前,aragorn说“I do not fear death”,走了进去;legolas应该说“To wherever it may lead”,跟了进去;Gimli接“如果连精灵都敢进我却不敢,算什么矮人”。最终版本里,A、G的台词都有保留,leggy的却被删去了。(开花怨念的评论音轨下载指路“ALVO一生推”微盘,密码见其微博)




to wherever it may lead这句话很微妙,我不知道怎么翻译好。在这里Orli心中Legolas这句话的意思可能是:I will follow you to wherever fate may lead,或者to wherever you lead me的意思(我的一家之言),因为魔戒2中刚好有另一处台词与这句异曲同工,是Theodore的手下对他说的:“we will follow you, to whatever end”,追随你去往任何结局。单独翻译这5个单词的话,我想平和一点可以译做“顺其自然”,深情一点可以译作“吾心安处”。





 上图右手那枚就是,图片时间、来源待查




传闻这枚戒指开花在01和02上半年戴在左手食指上,后戴在右手无名指上,03年他几乎一整年都戴着(此事尚需图片验证,存疑),有外国网友观察发现这枚戒指每次出现都意味着他与lotr朋友会面了(求证)。




记住这枚奇妙的戒指吧,《编年》写到14年时它还有重要戏份。








======我是时间点开始清楚起来的分割线========








2001年5月第一部首映,戛纳







视频在http://www.bilibili.com/video/av1009789/ 视频画质没有照片这么好




两人打闹去一边,传说镜头外花开被亲到尖叫,但不确定。








我想成为Viggo




魔戒1宣传之东京,开花被问及想演什么,Liv姐在旁边轻声提醒了一句,开花一下子笑开了花,答:“Yeah I wanna be Viggo. I don't even wanna be Aragorn, I wanna be Viggo.”




视频戳https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJGdJdd-ECE的,生肉,需翻墙,5分左右开始这个问题。我见过熟肉的截图,但没看过也不知道地址。即便看不懂,也可以去看看花开的表情,真是……点亮宇宙的感觉。




日本宣传的另一个视频,花开也结巴着提到了Viggo,视频由OB中文站发出:http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjMyMDI3MTIw.html 英语日字,说的意思和It's all love视频中差得不远。








有男同车,颜如舜华




2001年末,Viggo驱车载Orli出行,在Santa Monica Boulevard巧遇Stuart Townsend(原定Aragorn演员),Orlando看到了Stuart,Viggo遂与Stuart摇下窗户致意。







Have you ever spoken to Stuart Townsend since replacing him as Aragorn?

"I wrote to him when I arrived in New Zealand to start work on the trilogy, but have never met him. I did finally come across him one night in Los Angeles in late 2001. Driving on Santa Monica Boulevard - with Orlando Bloom as my passenger, as fate would have it - I pulled up to a red light. It turned out that Stuart was stopped next to us. Orlando, who knows Stuart fairly well, spotted him. We rolled down our windows and greeted each other. He seems a very good person and is obviously a serious artist."







这些并没有被狗仔拍到,全部细节为2008年初由Viggo告知Empire Magazine,那是6年后了(http://www.viggo-works.com/?printview=on&page=1577)








新西兰照片




2002年2月,在魔戒2首映之前,Viggo办了摄影展Signlanguage,展出自己99-01年在新西兰的摄影作品,后来又收入同名书里,简介及购买地址:https://www.percevalpress.com/signlanguage.html (这本书里没有诗,表买错)




银蕨迷路的图片可能收录在此,但是我没看过实体书不能保证。当然,并没有展出那张reputed to be the best ever taken of Orlando的照片→_→ 原因?我才不知道呢O(∩_∩)O~








2002年夏——月亮河







Bloom tells a story that occurred when the Rings crew returned to New Zealand in the summer of 2002 for sound dubbing and pickups for The Two Towers. "I flew over just to visit Viggo," says Bloom, who had heard that Mortensen was organising a reunion dinner. He, Mortensen and Henry, Ian McKellen, Liv Tyler (who plays Arwen), and members of the crew took a bus to the countryside. After dinner, Bloom and Henry went for a walk and noticed how beautifully the moon was shining on a nearby river. 

"We ran back and said, 'Everyone's got to see this.'" Bloom recalls. "I was having a Viggo moment - running out, getting people to come and check out the moon." Some decided to wade into the river, but Mortensen suggested the more perilous task of crossing the river. "I'm like, 'Fuck off,' and he says, 'Come on.' So were barefoot, waist-high in water, walking on these little rocks to get to the other side and I'm doing it because I'm an idiot and I'm following his lead. Because he's an idiot. And because he's amazing," Bloom laughs. "I can't believe how much this is going to make it sound like I'm in love with the guy."







以上是03年第三部首映后Orli的访谈,(地址http://www.theorlandobloomfiles.com/articles/premiere03jan.html)但故事发生在2002年夏天。02年剧组为魔戒2进行补拍,orlando因档期冲突去不了,在他们快结束的时候还是过去看了一眼,粗体字的意思是“我纯粹是为拜访Viggo飞过去的”。




开花、V叔H子,甘爷爷,Liv姐姐都在,饭后开花带Henry出去散步,发现月色好美,奔回去把大家都拉了出来,花开说他当时像Viggo附身了一样(having a viggo moment)。Viggo建议大家淌过河去,大家一齐光脚踩在齐腰的水里,水面映着月光。




“我这么做是因为我是个笨蛋,而我追随着他的领导,因为他是个笨蛋,因为他太棒了”,花开大笑道,“这听起来得有多像我爱上他了,简直难以相信。”








2002年12月第二部首映,LA





 情绪和2001年明显不同呢……








 





 
 不知道如何形容上面开花的表情……







 
 那是……眼泪吗?










Liv和John走过来了,大家一起拍照。Orli的脸上挂起从前一样热情明亮的笑容,和每个人勾肩搭背。——《只是当时》







 











2003年8、9月访谈(http://www.theorlandobloomfiles.com/articles/take203aug.html







It lasted the test of time?




Absolutely. It’s not one of those things which is just an on-set friendship, which ends when you stop working together. There are lots of those in this business, but this is something else. I mean, I flew to New Zealand for two nights and one day just to see my mates who are working on the movie. Whenever I’m in NY I call Liv and if I’m in LA I call Viggo and Elijah and Sean and when I’m in England I see the other two lads. We hang out. It’s more than something which you would ever say just passes. I mean we’ve also got another two years of press to do as well so we’re all thrilled that we’re going to get more chances to see each other.







问:你们的友谊经历了时间的考验吗?




答:当然。(略)我飞到新西兰呆一天两夜,只为看看在拍摄的朋友(指02年夏天的月亮河事件)。我在纽约总会给Liv电话,在LA就打给Viggo, Elijah和Sean,在英格兰会和另两个小伙子见面。我们出去找乐子。你永远不会说这段友谊已经过去了,我是说,我们还有两年的媒体访问呢,我们都很开心还有更多机会见见对方。








2003年8月,花开表示与20岁女星Kate Bosworth仅仅是认识,称自己已与工作结婚(http://www.theorlandobloomfiles.com/articles/elleuk03aug.html);表示不喜欢谈论私生活,那是对对方的不尊重,自己现在很幸福,但愿可以长久(http://www.theorlandobloomfiles.com/articles/now03aug6.html)此时花开在墨西哥拍摄《特洛伊》,绯闻女主在LA。




2003年9月,花开对“与Kate Bosworth约会”的流言不置评,说完后工作人员展示Kate就被安排就在演播厅外。Orlando给了哭泣的Kate一个拥抱,但没有改口,看表,按时离去。




地址:http://www.theorlandobloomfiles.com/articles/frida03sept.html




同月18日出了一条开花承认与Kate恋情的假新闻。








2003年12月1日,新西兰全球首映





 是的v叔手里拿着粉丝送的内裤





 可以看到一面是tree





 另一面是cunt——忘记cunt是什么鬼的拉上去复习他俩共用的化妆车叫什么。




前后合起来是cuntree=country,但黄暴的意思已经藏在里面了





V叔神马眼神?花开笑得双下巴都出来了





 这里可以看到v左肩的银蕨





 
 不认识,蜀黍我们不认识你





 
 听说viggo支持的足球队的颜色就是红蓝相间的,他自己常穿着红蓝相间的衣服出现表示支持。附一张viggo with flag:










 这……这是做什么?












两天后是魔戒3的美国首映





开花被撞得好痛吧,white light~ white light~







和旁边大叔的色调对比,两人的西装看起来怎样?











I have been very lucky in a relatively short time, to have worked with such fine actors and technicians. In this movie, especially for the young actors - and I'm thinking of those who had done no movies such as Orlando Bloom [Legolas] in particular and Dominic [Monaghan, Merry Brandybuck] to a degree and some of the others; for them to have this as their first experience is really... they were very fortunate I think. 







 在相对短的时间内,我很幸运能和这么优秀的演员和技术人员合作。这部片中,尤其对年轻演员来说——我是在想那些之前没拍过电影的人,比如尤其是Orlando Bloom,Dominic某种程度也是,还有一些其它人;对他们来说,能以这部片作为初次经历真的…… 我觉得他们特别幸运。




——2003年12月Viggo访谈,全文http://www.viggo-works.com/?page=2474








最后贴两个资源:




1)魔戒花絮合辑,有中字,指路B站http://www.bilibili.com/video/av543025/ 其中视频3的14-15分钟有Dominic爆料V叔看上一个Rohan汉子,然后才发现对方是女扮男装……Dominic夸道“我就知道他品味好,只看上的金发/金须的,衬得皮肤极好”




2)orli对v叔赞誉的合辑,有翻译,指路白树开花:http://www.twimlove.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2267


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